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there are, not there's [by Anonymous Citizen on September 5, 2008] about 2007 Senate Bill 162 (Mandate full day kindergarten for all five-year-olds ) "There ARE only benefits . . . " Reply New Comment View Thread
Why Michigan? [by Anonymous Citizen on September 5, 2008] about 2007 Senate Bill 86 (Extend unemployment insurance benefits ) I wish we would have elected the Governor of Alaska as our Governor instead of the {W]itch from Canada. Bad mistake. Reply New Comment View Thread
And All You Good [by Anonymous Citizen on September 5, 2008] about 2007 Senate Bill 86 (Extend unemployment insurance benefits ) dems/libs want to grow the government and hand over health care and who knows what else to these incompetant fools???? Anyone that doesn't vote republican/conservative deserves what they get. Reply New Comment View Thread
waiting [by Anonymous Citizen on September 5, 2008] about 2007 Senate Bill 86 (Extend unemployment insurance benefits ) I have been waiting three months. I can't pay my bills i am losing things, and cannot find a job! I don't know what to do. Reply New Comment View Thread
passionate commitment to government forced schooling [by Anonymous Citizen on September 5, 2008] about 2007 Senate Bill 162 (Mandate full day kindergarten for all five-year-olds ) “Did you know that in Sweden, a country legendary for its quality of life and a nation which beats American school performance in every academic category, a kid isn’t allowed to start school before the age of 7? The hard-headed Swedes don’t want to pay for the social pathologies attendant on ripping a child away from his home and mother and dumping him into a pen with strangers. ... Did you know that the entire Swedish school sequence is only 9 years long, a net 25 percent time and tax savings over our own 12-year sequence? ... “Did you know that Hong Kong, a country with a population the size of Norway’s, beats Japan in every scientific and mathematical category in which the two countries compete? Did you know that Hong Kong has a school year ten and one half weeks shorter than Japan’s? How on earth do they manage that if longer school years translate into higher performance? ... “Or did you know that in Flemish Belgium with the shortest school year in the developed world that the kids regularly finish in the top three nations in the world in academic competition? Is it the water in Belgium or what? Because it can’t be the passionate commitment to government forced schooling, which they don’t seem to possess. ... “If you trust journalism or the professional educational establishment to provide you with data you need to think for yourself in the increasingly fantastic socialist world of compulsion schooling, you are certainly the kind of citizen who would trade his cow for a handful of colored beans.” How We Do It….. "Non-intellectual, non-skill schooling was supported by a strange and motley collection of fellow travelers: from unions, yes, but also from the ranks of legendary businessmen like Carnegie and Rockefeller, Ford and Astor; there were genuine ideologues like John Dewey, yes, but many academic opportunists as well, like Nicholas Murray Butler of Columbia; prominent colleges like Johns Hopkins and the University of Chicago took a large hand in the deconstruction of American academic schooling as well as a powerful core of private foundations and think tanks. Whether they did this out of conviction, for the advantage of private interests, or any hybrid of these reasons and more I'll leave for the moment to others for debate. What is certain is that the outcomes aimed for had little to do with why parents thought children were ordered into schools; such alien outcomes as socialization into creatures who would no longer feel easy with their own parents, or psychologization into dependable and dependent camp followers it was firmly in place by 1917 - all that remained to reach the target was a continual series of experiments on public schoolchildren, some modest in scope, many breathtakingly radical like "IQ tests" or "kindergartens", and a full palette of intermediate colors like "multiculturalism", "rainbow" curricula and "universal self esteem". Each of these thrusts has a real behavioral purpose which is part of the larger utopia envisioned, yet each is capable of being rhetorically defended as the particular redress of some current "problem". "Shortly into the 20th century American schooling decided to move away from intellectual development or skills training as the main justification for its existence and to enter the eerie world of social engineering, a world where "socializing" and "psychologizing" the classroom preempted attention and rewards. Professionalization of the administrative/ teaching staff was an important preliminary mechanism to this end, serving as a sieve to remove troublesome interlopers and providing lucrative ladders to reward allies and camp followers."---John Tatto Reply New Comment View Thread
The Agenda of The Enemy? [by Anonymous Citizen on September 5, 2008] about 2007 Senate Bill 162 (Mandate full day kindergarten for all five-year-olds ) The NEA Spells Out Its Policies Phyllis Schlafly Monday, July 28, 2008 The nation's largest teachers union, the National Education Association, attracted 9,000 delegates to its annual convention in Washington, D.C. over the Fourth of July weekend. Delegates sported buttons with provocative slogans such as "Gay marriage causes Global Warming only because we are so hot!", "Hate is not a family value," "The 'Christian Right' is neither," and "Gay Rights are civil rights." The delegates passed dozens of hard-hitting resolutions that now become the NEA's official policy. The resolutions authorize NEA members and employees to lobby for those goals in the halls of Congress and state capitols. NEA resolutions cover the waterfront of all sorts of political issues that have nothing to do with improving education for schoolchildren, such as supporting statehood for the District of Columbia, a "single-payer health care plan" (i.e., government-run), gun control, ratification of the International Criminal Court Treaty, and taking steps "to change activities that contribute to global climate change." The NEA fiercely opposes any competition for public schools, such as vouchers, tuition tax credits, parental option plans, or public support of any kind to non-public schools. The NEA strongly opposes designating English as our official language even though such a designation is supported by more than 80 percent of Americans. The NEA opposes home schooling unless children are taught by state-licensed teachers using a state-approved curriculum. The NEA wants to bar home-schooled students from participating in any extracurricular activities in public schools even though their parents pay school taxes, too. The NEA wants many additional (job-creating) services and programs to be provided by public schools such as early childhood education (i.e., baby-sitting for preschoolers). NEA resolutions call for "programs in the public schools for children from birth through age 8," and for "mandatory kindergarten with compulsory attendance." NEA resolutions include all the major feminist goals such as "the right to reproductive freedom" (i.e., abortion on demand); "comparable worth" (i.e., government control of wages according to feminist ideology rather than the free market); full funding for the feminist boondoggle called the Women's Educational Equity Act; and "the use of nonsexist language," i.e., censoring out all masculine words such as husband and father. The NEA even urges its affiliates to work for ratification of the Equal Rights Amendment. The ERA was declared dead by the U.S. Supreme Court 26 years ago. The influence of the gay lobby is pervasive in dozens of NEA resolutions adopted by 2008 convention delegates. Diversity is the code word used for pro-gay indoctrination in the classroom. The NEA's diversity resolution makes clear that this means teaching about "sexual orientation" and "gender identification," words that are repeated in dozens of resolutions. The NEA demands that "diversity-based curricula" even be imposed on preschoolers. NEA convention delegates were invited to an open hearing by the SOGI Committee in Room 149A on July 1. In case you don't know, SOGI stands for Sexual Orientation Gender Identification. The NEA urges its members to offer "diverse role models" via the "hiring and promotion of diverse education employees in our public schools." The NEA puts "domestic partnerships, civil unions, and marriage" on an equal footing. The NEA wants every child, regardless of age, to have "direct and confidential access, without notification to parents, to comprehensive health education. That would include things such as learning how to use condoms for premarital sex, as well as social, and psychological programs and services." The NEA wants public schools to take over the physical and mental care of students through school clinics that provide services, diagnosis, treatment, family-planning counseling, and access to birth control methods "with instruction in their use." Family planning clinics are called on to "provide intensive counseling." The NEA wants all sex-education courses, textbooks, curricula, instructional materials and activities to include indoctrination about sexual orientation and gender identification plus warnings about homophobia. The NEA is very generous with taxpayer money spent on illegal immigrants. The NEA not only favors amnesty for illegal-immigrant students, but also in-state college tuition and financial aid to illegal-immigrant college students. The NEA is strong for "multicultural education," which the resolution makes clear does not mean studying facts about different countries and cultures. It means "the process of incorporating the values" and influencing "behavior" toward the NEA's version of "the common good," such as "reducing homophobia." Of course, the NEA supports "global education" to teach "interdependency in sharing the world's resources." It's also no surprise that the NEA adamantly opposes any requirement that schools "schedule a moment of silence." Will parents be silent about the radical goals of their children's teachers? Reply New Comment View Thread
Question [by Anonymous Citizen on September 5, 2008] about 2007 Senate Bill 162 (Mandate full day kindergarten for all five-year-olds ) Does ripping children away from their parents at an earlier age and for longer periods make smarter, better citizens or just better indoctrinated sheeple that will never question the nanny government? Reply New Comment View Thread
INSTITUTIONAL PROGRAMS? [by Anonymous Citizen on September 5, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4548 (Revise parole guidelines ) Rehabilitation is a joke in prison. There are no institutional programs that actually help prisoners return to society with the tools they need to be productive and succeed. The drug programs help, but prisoners need more than a simple class that teaches them to write resumes and conduct interviews. We can't get the interview in the first place if we don't have skills and education to put on the resume. You want to help prisoners? Bring back some degree programs. Or trade programs with actual need in society, such as nursing programs or a technology related field. Without new ways of thinking and without new skills to apply, all the prisoner knows is the same thing he knew when he came to prison, and once thrust into the world it won't be long before he reverts back to what he knows. It is literally hard to even begin conversations once released. What do we talk about? How much Jo-Jo lifted in the pit last week? But with new skills and broader education we actually become members of society. Doesn't education level correlate with crime rates? The facts are there, no matter how you twist the numbers we know that what is going on now isn't working. Abolish parole for nonviolents, minimize parole agents, use the savings to establish real life programs of education and training in careers seeing shortages of qualified people. If you don't begin actually helping than we all hurt. Reply New Comment View Thread
THE PEOPLE SHOULD VOTE FOR PAROLE BOARD MEMBERS! [by Anonymous Citizen on September 5, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4548 (Revise parole guidelines ) Soon I will initiate a petition to amend section 791.231a. I believe the current parole board and it's practices are harming Michigan. I am on parole. I committed a non-violent crime 10 years ago at 18 years of age. I have seen it go from being hard to get out of prison to the current practice of impossible to get off parole. It is literally as though they want to keep as many of us on parole as possible until (somehow) society's agenda once again turns to building more prisons and unnecessarily housing more prisoners. Enough is enough, how long must we live fearing that one day we will arbitrarily be torn away from our families. Actually with parole costs increasing exponentially why not do away with parole altogether. We already have mandatory minimums. I got sentenced to 3 years. Did 6 and am still on parole yet have committed no new crimes. I'm 28 and have yet to live life without fear. Reply New Comment View Thread
Great Spirits [by Anonymous Citizen on September 5, 2008] about 2007 Senate Bill 162 (Mandate full day kindergarten for all five-year-olds ) Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. --Albert Einstein Question: Does attending a mediocre school all day make you smarter than attending a mediocre school for half of the day? Reply New Comment View Thread
Great Spirits [by Anonymous Citizen on September 5, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4662 (Make kindergarten mandatory ) Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. --Albert Einstein Question: Does attending a mediocre school at age 5 make you smarter than attending a mediocre school when you are 6? Reply New Comment View Thread
Not True. [by Anonymous Citizen on September 5, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4662 (Make kindergarten mandatory ) This bill does require parents to enroll their children in Kindergarten if they meet the age requirement. Or home school them. Reply New Comment View Thread
Home school? [by Anonymous Citizen on September 5, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4662 (Make kindergarten mandatory ) FYI: public school is actually not mandatory in Michigan--for any student. If you don't like the policies and you are a bright or hardworking (or both?) parent, why not home school? What do you have to do in Michigan to home school? Send a note to your child's school saying you are home schooling (unless you like truant officers). The next day? Keep the child home and start teaching them. Period. Like the specials at school? Send the child in to school for art, P.E., media, etc. By Michigan Law, a home schooled child cannot be denied enrichment activities that a parent may not be able to provide on their own. Wouldn't be fair. You may have to wrangle with the office staff (as we did), but the schools have to abide by Michigan state law (as my DH, the lawyer, pointed out to our middle school principle). May not be for everyone, but we love being able to have our kids go to orchestra, art, etc. at school and still actually teach them the core subjects at home. Caveat: you can't pick and choose which core subjects to teach. Either you teach them all, or you enroll in school full-time. But you can pick and choose the specials. Just a thought. Reply New Comment View Thread
Um, homeschool? [by Anonymous Citizen on September 5, 2008] about 2007 Senate Bill 162 (Mandate full day kindergarten for all five-year-olds ) Did you know that you can "homeschool" for core curriculum and still send your adorable child to public school for all the "specials": art, p.e., library, recess, etc.? This is a legal mandate, too. They HAVE to let you (my DH is a lawyer). My son (4) is already reading chapter books and doing great at math. He's been writing me notes (okay, very simple ones) for almost 6 mo. He is going to kindergarten in 2009 at age 5. He does not need full-day kindergarten for any academic reasons. I will just send him 1/2 day anyway for the fun parts and to see his friends. Thanks, Michigan. Love your mandates, JK. My opinion: full-day kindergarten isn't for the kids. It's for budget reasons or working parents. If your schools suck, is spending more time there really going to help?? Sure, if you don't want to pay for daycare or mid-day busses. Reply New Comment View Thread
Um, homeschool? [by Anonymous Citizen on September 5, 2008] about 2006 Senate Bill 1306 (Mandate full day kindergarten for all five-year-olds ) Did you know that you can "homeschool" for core curriculum and still send your adorable child to public school for all the "specials": art, p.e., library, recess, etc.? This is a legal mandate, too. They HAVE to let you (my DH is a lawyer). My son (4) is already reading chapter books and doing great at math. He's been writing me notes (okay, very simple ones) for almost 6 mo. He is going to kindergarten in 2009 at age 5. He does not need full-day kindergarten for any academic reasons. I will just send him 1/2 day anyway for the fun parts and to see his friends. Thanks, Michigan. Love your mandates, JK. My opinion: full-day kindergarten isn't for the kids. It's for budget reasons or working parents. If your schools suck, is spending more time there really going to help?? Sure, if you don't want to pay for daycare or mid-day busses. Reply New Comment View Thread
Response to Co-mingling [by Anonymous Citizen on September 4, 2008] about 2007 Senate Bill 836 (Revise off-campus public school curricula offerings detail ) This bill only opens up nonessential elective courses, not core curricula. A private school has enough struggles just to recruit and pay teachers for core curricula. There are often not enough students nor funds to outfit a marching band. A home-schooled child, who can not have a choir or band in his/her living room, can now have access to that specific type of instruction. This legislation stops a local superintendent who is hostile towards non-public schools from blocking their access to OTHER schools outside of their district that may be friendly and more than willing to help those students. The true need is for legislation that forces the local school to allow the student into their class NO MATTER what. Those students pay taxes just like everyone else! Reply New Comment View Thread
Hello [by Anonymous Citizen on September 4, 2008] about 2007 Senate Bill 86 (Extend unemployment insurance benefits ) I have not received my unemployment yet. I did everything I was supposed to. They said I had to wait 1 to 4 weeks. I keep trying to call through because it has been 5 weeks today. On July 31 I received a letter stating my weekly check amount, but no check yet. Anyone else having the same issue? Reply New Comment View Thread
A big difference? [by Anonymous Citizen on September 4, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4430 (Revise statutory rape laws ) I agree that there should be some grey areas, not everything is black and white. But to say there is no difference between a 15 yr. old and an 18 yr. old, is quite an understatement. Hopefully, there is a huge difference, both in maturity and intelligence. There is no problem with an 18 yr. old having sex with a 22 yr. old, but I feel there is a big problem with a 15 yr. old having sex with a 19 yr. old, those are some very important years of learning and growing, both physically and emotionally for the majority of people. I personally think there should be a two year cut-off for consentual sex for anybody under the age of 18. A 15 yr. old has no business having sex with anybody who is out of/ or should be out of high school, that is rediculous. Reply New Comment View Thread
Constitutional Facts [by Anonymous Citizen on September 4, 2008] about 2005 Senate Bill 567 (Impose new billboard moratorium ) Try reading the US and Michigan Constitutions first. Pay attention to the First, Fourth and Fifth Amendments in the US Constitution and Article I, subsections 5, 11, 23 and Article X subsection 2 in the Michigan Constitution. If that doesn't help you understand how this legislation is unconstitutional try reading Webster's New World College Dictionary and Webster's Collegiate Thesaurus. Read the definitions for the words: advertise, billboard, constitution, effects, free, freedom, houses, liberty, press, print, private, property, seizure, sign, unconstitutional. What does the phrase "shall not" mean? Also one can't have press without speech to put to print; so the two go hand in hand. Lastly try Googling "The Founding Fathers and property rights". Read their words. I don't need the Supreme Court, or ANY court to interpret what the Constitution(s) say and mean, I can read the words. If you need the courts to interpret what the Constitution(s) mean you go ahead and do that. The Constitution(s) are not in place to allow UNLIMITED power of the government, but to LIMIT the actions of government. If the Constitution(s) state the government isn't allowed to do something...THEY AREN'T ALLOWED TO DO IT. If you want to debate this issue in a public forum I'd gladly accept that debate. Reply New Comment View Thread
very unrealistic [by Anonymous Citizen on September 4, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 6088 (Require licensure of home inspectors ) The liability issue is one thing but what about the licensing requirement of participating in 200 inspections under another inspector? I am currently enrolled in a home inspection program and was hoping to start a good honest business to support myself and family. What the hell is someone going to say when a 40 year old guy walks in to a home inspection company and says hey I wonder if I could have 200 of your jobs? Thanks a lot Michigan you did it again! Reply New Comment View Thread
Our next VP... [by Anonymous Citizen on September 4, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4077 (Revise new sewer hookup mandate ) She's definately a MILF Reply New Comment View Thread
Awesome Girl [by Anonymous Citizen on September 4, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4077 (Revise new sewer hookup mandate ) She will be president elect in 2012 and maybe statr to reel in the nanny government. I Love Hockey Moms Reply New Comment View Thread
Governor....Alaska [by Anonymous Citizen on September 4, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4077 (Revise new sewer hookup mandate ) WOW!!! A woman who is attractive and intelligent!!! Don't you know jenny and hillary are jealous as heck. I think our next VP has set a new stage for woman across the world. I was torn as to who to vote for, BUT NOT NOW!! Go Sarah Go!!!! Reply New Comment View Thread
Septic [by Anonymous Citizen on September 4, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4077 (Revise new sewer hookup mandate ) Our City says the Health Department has the jurisdiction of all septics. The local Heath Department states the city has the jurisdiction of septics. Who will condem? Reply New Comment View Thread
Against proposed law [by Anonymous Citizen on September 4, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4198 (Mandate gasoline ethanol content ) I agree with others above that say we need to repeal the non-labeling law. I for one would like to know the ethanol content of the fuel I'm paying my hard earned dollars for. Ethanol is less efficient and consumers should be able to choose what EXPENSIVE fuels they want to use in their EXPENSIVE vehicles. Also, marinas in Michigan should be able to sell 100% gasoline with no ethanol, as ethanol is a BIG problem in older boats with fiberglass fuel tanks. Ethanol doesn't store well either and boats in Michigan are typically laid up for the winter. Storing gasoline/ethanol mixes for 6 months of the year causes BIG trouble as well. Reply New Comment View Thread
re:People like you nmake me sick!!!!! [by Anonymous Citizen on September 4, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4463 (Allow local governments to provide temporary road end docks ) freeloaders like you make me sick. Maybe you would like to help with our exorbitant taxes that the welfare state imposes on us to feed all the freeloaders. Reply New Comment View Thread
Give It Up Chubby [by Anonymous Citizen on September 4, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4163 (Prohibit allowing private workplace smoking ) get back to the buffet line. You're missing out on the third helping of mashed potatoes. I think that as long as we're telling PRIVATE business what they can do then we need a new law to limit portions since all you lard butts cost the health care industry way more than smokers could ever dream of. Reply New Comment View Thread
Hey Control Freak nanny Stater.. [by Anonymous Citizen on September 4, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4163 (Prohibit allowing private workplace smoking ) You Have Lots Of Choices, Don't Take Mine Away [by Anonymous Citizen on August 22, 2008] Smoke-Free Dining Guide There are more than 3,500 smoke-free restaurants and eateries in Michigan. Click here to find smoke-free dining in your area. This online guide is compiled by the Michigan Citizens for Smoke-Free Air. Reply New Comment View Thread
C'mon Legislators... [by yes_to_no_smoking on September 3, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4163 (Prohibit allowing private workplace smoking ) The Senate passed their version of this bill back in May. What in the heck is taking it so long to get to the floor for a vote? The Democrats crafted this bill. The Republicans improved upon it, by making it fair to all, i.e. no exemptions for non-Indian casinos, race tracks, or tobacco shops. Please pass this bill now. I know Jennifer Grandholm's busy with Kwame's hearing, but that may be over pretty quickly. Let's make history; House - please pass this bill; Governor - please sign it. Thank you for not smoking in public places. The people have the right to breathe clean air in all restaurants, bowling alley's, bars, casinos, etc. Reply New Comment View Thread
Disgusted by your Attitude [by Anonymous Citizen on September 3, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4463 (Allow local governments to provide temporary road end docks ) Where do you come off thinking that your grandchildren have a right to play at public road ends but "strangers" do not. Apparently you were too dumb to consider the ramifications of purchasing property next to a PUBLIC road end and believe that the "less worthy" should bow down before your desires. YOu may have been born with a silver spoon in your mouth but that does not give you ownership of public property or control of our lakes. People like you nmake me sick!!!!! Reply New Comment View Thread
Anonymous [by Anonymous Citizen on September 3, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4463 (Allow local governments to provide temporary road end docks ) I hope you DO Sell. We would like to get rid of all the selfish, arrogant people who think they should control our natural resources just because they supposedly pay more taxes. You probably describe yourself as a Christian also. Take your warped values somewhere else, please. Reply New Comment View Thread
Nice to know.... [by Anonymous Citizen on September 3, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4666 (Repeal Indian tuition waiver ) That the college money I EARNED for MY children to go to college - you just STOLE (with molefaces help) from me. Thank you very much Michigan.......!!!!! They now attend FL colleges as I have moved so no more of MY MONEY going to the Peoples Republic Of Michistian. God, what a bunch of commies........You;ll get what you deserve. Reply New Comment View Thread
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Amen. [by Anonymous Citizen on September 2, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 5524 (End electric power provider competition ) To the brother who's cleaning his guns... Once the violence begins the end is near...I fear the end of our democracy as we know it. Hopefully, the citizens of our good state can somehow take control away from the corrupt legislature and place it back in the hands of those honest patriots who believe in equality for all. Otherwise, history has shown that patriots will do what they've always done to accomplish that which diplomacy cannot. Reply New Comment View Thread
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"cause [by Anonymous Citizen on September 2, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 5218 (Mandate, impose customer surcharge for alternative electricity ) Idiots in that state voted for the mole faced commie train wreck. Dah, even Alaskians are smarter than the twits in Michigan. So don't blame it on the cold! Good luck Signed, Blown away to Florida. Reply New Comment View Thread
WHY??? [by Anonymous Citizen on September 2, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 5218 (Mandate, impose customer surcharge for alternative electricity ) Why can't Michigan have a smart, good looking governor like Alaska??? Instead we get a idiot with bumps on her face. Reply New Comment View Thread
Once Again [by Anonymous Citizen on September 2, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 5218 (Mandate, impose customer surcharge for alternative electricity ) If It Is So Great it won't need the iron fist of government to prop it up. The government should get out of the way and let the market work. Reply New Comment View Thread
It's My Property, not the state's [by Anonymous Citizen on September 2, 2008] about 2008 Senate Bill 1370 (Revise billboard moratorium details ) Despite what you pathetic socialists believe, my private property belongs to me! It does not belong to the state, not the citizenry, not the majority, not motorists...IT IS MINE! I found it, I paid for it, I maintain it and I'll do what I damn well want to with it. DO YOU HEAR ME!! It's MINE! What part of that don't you stupid socialists understand? If I want to put up a hundred billboards on my private property I WILL!! And for all you lame brains who don't like looking at billboards and signs, I have a very simple solution for you...DON'T LOOK AT THEM!! IF YOU CAN'T DRIVE AND LOOK AROUND AT THE SAME TIME, GET OFF THE ROADS!! How is it that with all the money the government spends and wastes on education in this society we have so many stupid people around? This socialistic government tells me I can't do with my private property what I brought it for, yet they have the outright audacity to force inflated taxes my property to pay for their black hole school systems? This madness is going to stop!! Hey legislators, try reading a document called "The Constitution of the United States". I know it's probably a foreign concept for you to grasp, but there are some articles and clauses in that document you need to have entered into your thick political skulls. Just some minor things like "...freedom of speech..." and "...freedom of press..."; "...right of the people to be secure in their...houses...effects...against seizures..."; "...nor be deprived of life, LIBERTY, or PROPERTY...nor SHALL PRIVATE PROPERTY BE TAKEN FOR PUBLIC USE, WITHOUT JUST COMPENSATION." Read it and wept socialists. I CHALLENGE ANYONE TO A DEBATE ON THIS TOPIC IN ANY PUBLIC FORUM!!! Reply New Comment View Thread
Tax, spend and waste more MORONS [by Anonymous Citizen on September 1, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 6296 (Earmark some gasoline sales tax to road projects ) Earmark more tax on gasoline to generate revenue for roads? I thought this has already been going on for years, if not decades. Where has the money I've been paying in gas tax (EVERY TIME I GET GAS!)been going all these years? What have you Morons in Lansing been doing with all that money?!?! Surely you haven't been wasting that money I pay at the pump every time I get gas. Surely you haven't been spending that money on anything but roads. Surely you can't need additional taxes to pay for something the state has already been receiving funding for. How much do I currently pay in state tax on a gallon of gasoline? And you want more?!? Reply New Comment View Thread
Come on already [by MPeltan on September 1, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 5218 (Mandate, impose customer surcharge for alternative electricity ) Why Oh Why haven't they passed this yet? We NEED to get alternative energies up and running ASAP! They subsidized Oil, Coal, and Nuclear and still do... Reply New Comment View Thread
no for michigan [by gar on September 1, 2008] about 2003 Senate Bill 509 (Impose "driver responsibility fees" ) I find this a very disturbing law for mi. There is more police out on the roads now than ever. So your chances are even greater to receive tickets. And now some courts do not waver points anymore. For me,trying to avoid a collision with a truck that did not see me,because i was in his blind spot,and had nowhere else to go but on the side walk. So i speed up 5 miles over the speed limit to avoid accident. Now i received the points. And on another occasion, the police sit under a bridge hideing, and where they know you will pick up speed a little going down hill,that is another 2 points. And too pay this drivers responsibility fee on top of that. I am sorry,but i do not want to conduct my business in michigan anymore. And i know plenty of other people who agree with me on this, and will let other people know how corrupt michigan laws are. Reply New Comment View Thread
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johnbingolove@yahoo.com [by Anonymous Citizen on August 30, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4006 (Repeal "bad driver" fees ) Yes I want to know has this bill passed, I have to kids to feed. I work two jobs and go to school and I need to be able to drive. Reply New Comment View Thread
When will we know [by Anonymous Citizen on August 30, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 5334 (Revise homestead property tax exemption May 1 deadline ) if this passed and is now law? Reply New Comment View Thread
really? [by Anonymous Citizen on August 29, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 6379 (State employment early retirement ) Did the citizens' initiative get on the ballot? I thought it was kicked off by the courts. If the reform proposal is on the ballot you might be right, if not, early retirement for state employees is still a good idea because it would save money and provide some new jobs. Reply New Comment View Thread
MOVE [by Anonymous Citizen on August 29, 2008] about 2007 Senate Bill 638 (Repeal driver responsibility fees ) I AM MOVING. THIS IS BY FAR THE MOST PATHETIC STATE IN THE COUNRTY!!!! What is the responsibility fee for child abuse or rape? how about killing a stripper at a party? What is the responsibility fee for your daddy bribing the dean to allow you into his school? Reply New Comment View Thread
G-Ma [by Anonymous Citizen on August 29, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4262 (Revise prison time off for good behavior ) He is doing great. I am having a nice summer too. How is yours Sandie? Reply New Comment View Thread
McCain's VP pick [by Anonymous Citizen on August 29, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4731 (Repeal “lewd and lascivious cohabitation” law ) WOW!! An attractive woman Governor with brains and a man's man for a husband. God, I wish Michigan had one of those. Reply New Comment View Thread
In Response [by Anonymous Citizen on August 29, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4731 (Repeal “lewd and lascivious cohabitation” law ) If that is what you really think then you obviously know very little about government and the effort public officials put in to try to get things done. Reply New Comment View Thread
Save Michigan! [by Anonymous Citizen on August 29, 2008] about 2008 House Joint Resolution FFF (Repeal term limits ) Repeal term limits. Term limits are one of the great boondoggles in Michigan history. Return power over their representatives to the voters by getting rid of term limits. Reply New Comment View Thread
Senior [by Anonymous Citizen on August 29, 2008] about 2008 House Joint Resolution FFF (Repeal term limits ) Repeal term limit you got to be crazy we can't have those fat cat in office any longer than 4 years. You can see this by the way our legislator in Washington DC work they don't do anything except set on there fat asses. Reply New Comment View Thread
How True [by DetroitPatriot on August 28, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 6350 (Authorize tax breaks for oil refinery ) lets hope that the adults get elected and we can start drilling Reply New Comment View Thread
We Need [by Anonymous Citizen on August 28, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 6147 (Make state capitol security officers peace officers ) more cops like a frog needs a bicycle Reply New Comment View Thread
Dark age's [by Anonymous Citizen on August 28, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 6147 (Make state capitol security officers peace officers ) Why do anything. This state is so far behind the times it's unreal,in security. Instead speading money on our securtiy or how to make it better. Those poeple in that big white house rather spend money on things like how to save turtles crossing a road. Next they'll be say that they don't need any protection, thats when somebody drives right up to some state building and takes a hole lot of state employees lives... can't anybody remember 9-11 and Okahoma. Oh that won't happen here, heard that one before. Do the right thing get this people the tools an the training they need. If they can run a trooper school they sure can get these people trained to do the job right. We sure don't send our military of to fight a war with out the proper training. So what the hold up. Reply New Comment View Thread
i dont get it [by Anonymous Citizen on August 28, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4249 (No adverse possession if taxes paid ) the entire united states is based on Adverse possession (homesteading,land squatting)what ever you want to call it.there are many lands and house in Michigan that have been abandon for many many years.If you lost your land over a hunting blind you should have gotten a better lawyer becuase a hunting blind doesnt meet the burdon for Adverse possession the person has to have active control of the land and using it for 15 years .the act of hunting the land doesnt meet that unless there living in the blind.also if in 15 years you dont notice someone using your land um why are you complaining you didnt care the last 15 years.Next make sure you check your property line i bet most of you be surpised to find out you are using part of someone else property. Reply New Comment View Thread
The OPEC oil minister says.. [by Anonymous Citizen on August 28, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 6350 (Authorize tax breaks for oil refinery ) “We are at war with you infidels and have been since the embargo in the 1970s. You are so arrogant you haven’t even recognized it. You have more missiles, bombs, and technology; so we are fighting with the best weapon we have and extracting on a net basis about $700 billion/year out of your economy. We will destroy you! Death to the infidels! “While I am here I would like to thank you for the following: Not developing your 250-300 year supply of oil shale and tar sands. We know if you did this, it would create thousands of jobs for U.S. citizens, expand your engineering capabilities, and keep the wealth in the U.S. Instead of sending it to us to finance our war against you infidels. “Thanks for limiting defense dept. purchases of oil sands from your neighbors to the north. We love it when you confuse your allies. “Thanks for over-regulating every segment of your economy and thus delaying, by decades, the development of alternate fuel technologies. “Thanks for limiting drilling off your coasts, in Alaska , and anywhere there is an insect, bird, fish, or plant that might be inconvenienced. Better that your people suffer. Glad to see our lobbying efforts have been so effective. “Corn based Ethanol. Praise Allah for this sham program! Perhaps you will destroy yourself from the inside with these types of policies. This is a gift from Allah, praise his name! We never would have thought of this one! This is better than when you pay your farmers NOT TO GROW FOOD. Have them use more energy to create less energy, and simultaneously drive up food prices. Thank you U.S. Congress! “And finally, we appreciate you letting us fleece you without end. You will be glad to know we have been accumulating shares in your banks, real estate, and publicly held companies. We also finance a good portion of your debt and now manipulate your markets, currency, and economies for our benefit. “THANK YOU AMERICA !” Reply New Comment View Thread
Let's "encourage" [by Anonymous Citizen on August 28, 2008] about 2005 House Bill 4375 (Encourage school depression and suicide sensitivity instruction ) All you folks running the show in lansingistan to knock it off and leave us alone. No more taxes and no more stupid laws. How about we "encourage" you to do what's right and cut some taxes, cut some stupid regulations, fees and so forth and quit trying to turn our state into your private little feifdom. We can't afford you mental midgets anymore. Reply New Comment View Thread
one of a kind, Michigan [by Anonymous Citizen on August 28, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 6389 (Grant early and full pension to some privatized state workers ) Dear Lansing, Thank you so much for continuing to create larger deficits in the tax rolls, not by lowering taxes but by raising them. As a business owner, I truly appreciate your "disciplining" us entrepreneurs by making sure we have to squeeze every penny two or three times while you lavish yourself with perks. No wonder Michigan is the only state where the poverty rate increased due to lack of jobs. Reply New Comment View Thread
Members do graduate from college.... [by Anonymous Citizen on August 27, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4666 (Repeal Indian tuition waiver ) We are proud members of the Wyandot of Anderdon and are behind our Chief Steven Gronda 100%. He is a great and wise man with much to offer. Our daughter Stephanie is going to graduate from Wayne State University this year into broadcast journalism. Our son is in his second year at WSU also and will graduate in the coming years. Our oldest son is currently serving America in the US ARMY and just returned from a tour of duty in IRAQ. He returned home a decorated veteran with a Bronze Star on his chest. Without the tuition waiver 2 of our children may have never seen a university, we are very grateful for the chance to have our children go to college and receive higher education here in Michigan. Many Thanks to the state of Michigan, many more to our chief Steven Gronda. C.Stoddart Reply New Comment View Thread
. [by Anonymous Citizen on August 27, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4666 (Repeal Indian tuition waiver ) We are proud members of the Wyandot of Anderdon and are behind our Chief Steven Gronda 100%. He is a great and wise man with much to offer. Our daughter Stephanie is going to graduate from Wayne State University this year into broadcast journalism. Our son is in his second year at WSU also and will graduate in the coming years. Our oldest son is currently serving America in the US ARMY and just returned from a tour of duty in IRAQ. He returned home a decorated veteran with a Bronze Star on his chest. Without the tuition waiver 2 of our children may have never seen a university, we are very grateful for the chance to have our children go to college and receive higher education here in Michigan. Many Thanks to the state of Michigan, many more to our chief Steven Gronda. C.Stoddart Reply New Comment View Thread
HB 6379 [by Anonymous Citizen on August 27, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 6379 (State employment early retirement ) Appears to be just for judges and court personnel. Reply New Comment View Thread
we the people ? [by Anonymous Citizen on August 27, 2008] about 2003 Senate Bill 509 (Impose "driver responsibility fees" ) we the people ? You think that this ultra socialist government is going to give up any of their power over you? The "we the people" thing has been gone since we started to allow ignorant slackers to vote. These folks WANT a nanny state and the socialists are all too happy to provide it. It's easier to be dependent than to provide; easier to spend other people's money than your own; easier to destroy than create; easier to protest than support; easier to be entitled than to earn; easier to demand than supply; easier to observe than act; easier to run than to fight; easier to criticize than to do; easier to lecture than perform; easier to follow than to lead; easier to complain than adjust; easier to cheat than to merit; easier to receive than give; easier to conform than to stand out; easier to give in than to convince; easier to be in consensus than independent; easier to think with the group than for yourself; easier to be liked than ridiculed; easier to be feared than respected; easier to savage than to praise... Socialist which is more honest than the word "liberal" -- which used to mean somebody who believed in liberty. Today it means the flummery of the Mommy State. Socialism is very appealing to Mommies, Would-be Mommies, and Those Who Still Need their Mommies. But of course it's government of the scammers, by the scammers, and for the scammers. Reply New Comment View Thread
we the people [by Anonymous Citizen on August 27, 2008] about 2003 Senate Bill 509 (Impose "driver responsibility fees" ) we the people have the right to say what goes and what stays. The driver responsible act is hitting our pockets very hard and making it so we cant live comfortable with out allof the stress. If i pay for my tickets and the insurance for my car and the high gas prices and the car note and maintence on my vehicle where does that leave money for anything else it is crazy to have this ectra expense on top of all of what we the people do. Reply New Comment View Thread
Quit Pouring [by Anonymous Citizen on August 27, 2008] about 2008 Senate Bill 1348 (Authorize state Cobo Hall expansion subsidy ) OUR MONEY down the drain in detroit! Reply New Comment View Thread
Re: Prove It! [by Anonymous Citizen on August 27, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4564 (Establish joint custody presumption ) I agree 100% with you. Children, especially babies and any child under 8 need to be at home where they LIVE. It is not fair to have the children bounced around. If you want to visit the child do so where the child is comfortable and around the parent they are most comfy with ( especially babies/toddlers/and little ones never living with both parents!) How come when the parents are married the judge doesn't make mommy leave so the father and his side can have time with the kid alone. I think there is something wrong with people who feels in order to spend time with a child they must do so without mom around and away from where the child knows as home. Children need both parents, but biological parent means nothing if it is in a disfunctional situation which is not just drug abuse and the other stuff we call bad, but children months apart and stuff like that. When fathers force themselves in the child's life early on is it really a commitment to the child forever or just because you are hot under the collar at mom and feels she has something that belongs to you because you dropped a little sperm? Are you going to be there 5 years from now or is mom going to have to comfort the child becuase dad disappoints the child because he didn't think things all the way through when he decided he wanted to be involved. I don't know if any of you all notice this or not but men seem to change their minds about fatherhood when they are not married to the mom or when other things or people come into thier lives. I agree, prove it. Moms should work with dad but dads need to leave baby and really young children at home with mom. You and mom will know when the child is ready to spend the night away from home. How is that we don't make kids spend the night away with friends when they are young but we allow courts to force kids to spend the night or nights away from home and such young ages. Courts do this but fathers allow it, so shame on you fathers. Reply New Comment View Thread
Anyone else? [by Anonymous Citizen on August 27, 2008] about 2007 Senate Bill 86 (Extend unemployment insurance benefits ) Is there anyone else that hasn't received their first Unemployment extension check? Sarah Reply New Comment View Thread
Ignorant [by Anonymous Citizen on August 26, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4244 (Mandate infertility insurance coverage ) No, it's not ignorant to compare infertility to cancer. She's comparing the fact that they are both involuntary health issues. One is covered, one is not. It makes perfect sense. And having $12,000 up front for a procedure is much different than having a child and paying for expenses over time. Reply New Comment View Thread
Linkz [by Anonymous Citizen on August 26, 2008] about 2006 House Joint Resolution Y (Authorize death penalty ) comment2, Reply New Comment View Thread
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Crossbow IS Archery [by Anonymous Citizen on August 26, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 5741 (Narrow crossbow hunting exception ) By Michigans own definition, Crossbow- A weapon consisting of a bow mounted transversely on a stock or frame and designed to fire an arrow, bolt, or quarrel by the release of a bow string controlled by a mechanical or electrical trigger with a working safety and a draw weight of 1000 pounds or greater. the crossbow is without a doubt a bow. And as such should be allowed during ARCHERY season. Reply New Comment View Thread
Early-out retirement [by Anonymous Citizen on August 26, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 6389 (Grant early and full pension to some privatized state workers ) Do you pay attention to the news? Private companies (GM, Ford, Chrysler,etc.- those that offer pensions) have been having early-outs for the last few years. You replace more expensive senior employees with cheaper new employees or don't replace at all. Shouldn't have to be a rocket scientist to understand the concept. Reply New Comment View Thread
anonymous [by Anonymous Citizen on August 26, 2008] about 2008 Senate Bill 1348 (Authorize state Cobo Hall expansion subsidy ) i am against this bill. If they wish to expand the Cobo Hall, let them tax the Detroit people. Reply New Comment View Thread
Why [by Anonymous Citizen on August 26, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 6350 (Authorize tax breaks for oil refinery ) "Why give a credit to an upstart company without a MI track record" Why does jenny give hollywood weirdos 40% of anything they spend here? Why does she think this is a good investment? If it's a good deal she should do it with her money and not what she has stolen from the people. Reply New Comment View Thread
If They Would Quit [by Anonymous Citizen on August 26, 2008] about 2008 Senate Bill 1399 (Authorize state arts grants income tax checkoff ) Giving our money to so called artists for painting with poop and other such nonsense then maybe you would find some sympathy. I for one don't want a dime of my money going to the so called art community. However if they stop giving money that they steal from us and only use the voluntary checkoff that would be great. Remember, if you can't find anyone willing to pay for your "art" maybe it isn't art and you need to find gainful employment. Reply New Comment View Thread
Linkz [by Anonymous Citizen on August 26, 2008] about 2006 House Joint Resolution Y (Authorize death penalty ) g2S3EU sdfkdf wmlesvnhf dgjotdbm Reply New Comment View Thread
States and Cities are protected,why can't we be? [by Anonymous Citizen on August 25, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4249 (No adverse possession if taxes paid ) I think it is total crap that I can pay taxes on property,and some one can steal it by squatting on it,if they do it for 15 years or longer.However States and cities can kick out squatters no matter how long they have been on their land.If I'm paying the taxes on the land why don't I have the same rights? Reply New Comment View Thread
Arts are important [by Anonymous Citizen on August 25, 2008] about 2008 Senate Bill 1399 (Authorize state arts grants income tax checkoff ) Hello, I am writing in regards to this bill, and we feel that Art is a very important part to each and every person in our community, and we would truly appreciate the opportunity to get this bill pass so that all people and especially to our kids and that they should have the support and knowledge to continue to be supported. Thank you Reply New Comment View Thread
Great Idea! [by Anonymous Citizen on August 25, 2008] about 2008 Senate Bill 1399 (Authorize state arts grants income tax checkoff ) I think that this would be a good idea. People are still having the right to chose if they want to contribute or not. It is very important that people feel the need have choice. This bill is still giving people a choice. There are alot of people who would like to know more and donate to the Arts, but are unsure how. This will give these people the opportunity to give back to something they believe. Something that is extremly important to everyone in world. I believe that this would be a good idea. Reply New Comment View Thread
Anonymous citizen [by Anonymous Citizen on August 25, 2008] about 2008 Senate Bill 1399 (Authorize state arts grants income tax checkoff ) I think that this proposal is a great idea and that it will help out the community. A single dollar of art funding will bring more money to surrounding business as well. I think the option to give money in this way will help people do something that betters the world around us. Arts are important to a well-rounded education without funding there will be less opportunities for the people of our community. Reply New Comment View Thread
Anonymous citizen [by Anonymous Citizen on August 25, 2008] about 2008 Senate Bill 1399 (Authorize state arts grants income tax checkoff ) I think that this bill would be a great addition to the tax form. I believe that the arts influences kids to do positive things. It also builds skills that get them ready for jobs in the workforce. I think that people should donate money to help with funding towards the arts. Reply New Comment View Thread
Pension Incentive [by Mike Hignite on August 25, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 6379 (State employment early retirement ) Why is this needed? Now that the citizen's inititative is on the ballot to eliminate some of these jobs, is it necessary to increase pension payments to state retirees? Was the pension too small before? Reply New Comment View Thread
Give us a break from MEDC [by Mike Hignite on August 25, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 6350 (Authorize tax breaks for oil refinery ) Giving tax breaks to oil companies is not good. Neither should you give special tax breaks to any specific industry or group. See how this works: 1. Why give a credit to an upstart company without a MI track record? Doesn't that punish a company like Dow who has been here forever? Why should Dow stay then if you won't reward them. This causes companies to leave MI. Boo! 2. Why should Dow get a tax break just because they've been here a long while? Doesn't that put new companies bringing new jobs and technology at a disadvantage simply because they haven't been here long? Boo! The intelligent thing to do is ... Nothing. Don't reward any one company over any other. One tax rate for every company, all the same. A level playing field for all. Millions saved by eliminating MEDC's expense. This isn't that hard to understand. Reply New Comment View Thread
Golden Umbrellas [by Anonymous Citizen on August 25, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 6389 (Grant early and full pension to some privatized state workers ) Why should government employees get golden umbrellas for retirering when those in the private sector are losing pensions, life insurance, ans helth bennifits. When are the legislators going to join the real world? Reply New Comment View Thread
not exactly true [by Anonymous Citizen on August 25, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 5074 (Prohibit allowing private workplace smoking ) Bars, restaurants, hotels, etc. are places of public accommodation, appropriately regulated and licensed by state and/or to serve the public. There's state liquor licenses, sales tax, county health licenses, perhaps a local city/township license as well. Reply New Comment View Thread
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Step AAway From The Kool Aid Jug [by Anonymous Citizen on August 25, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 5603 (Authorize hybrid vehicle tax break ) You have over indulged. Reply New Comment View Thread
Great Post [by Anonymous Citizen on August 25, 2008] about 2008 House Joint Resolution HHH (Authorize local sales tax for transportation ) The sales tax alone on gas has doubled in the last year with the price of fuel. Reply New Comment View Thread
Right On! [by Mike Hignite on August 25, 2008] about 2008 House Joint Resolution HHH (Authorize local sales tax for transportation ) There is no need for any additional tax revenue. Use what you already take to do what you should have been doing all along. You already have a gas tax, and a sales tax on the gas and gas tax as well. Use that for roads and stop wasting it on boondoggle people-movers, light rail games. Reply New Comment View Thread
Just Goes To Show [by Anonymous Citizen on August 25, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 6391 (Repeal Land Sales Act ) There isn't a whit of difference between Democrans and Republicrats these days, in reality. None to be trusted. Reply New Comment View Thread
Because [by Anonymous Citizen on August 25, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 6391 (Repeal Land Sales Act ) the nice dems/socialists are always looking out for the little guy? Yeah, with friends like those, who need enemy? Reply New Comment View Thread
Enlighten me [by Anonymous Citizen on August 25, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 6391 (Repeal Land Sales Act ) Why would we want to repeal an act that is a pr is a protection for purchasers, that regulates misleading advertising? Reply New Comment View Thread
Taxpayers are a "Slush Fund!" [by inform4 on August 25, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 6389 (Grant early and full pension to some privatized state workers ) Does Rep. Fred Miller think our tax dollars are a slush fund? Having the taxpayers give to Department of Human Services child protective services division retirees who retire earlier than allowed under current law a full pension? The poor souls were laid off under a plan to privatize a portion of the division’s operations. Tell that sob story to all those who have lost their jobs in the private sector due to down-sizing, company closures, etc... No wonder this is a high tax state! How many more proposals similar to this have the taxpayers funded? How many more are in the works? Wouldn't it be nice if the private sector could be afforded similar benefits? This is one reason why so many are moving out of Michigan. Reply New Comment View Thread
I Pity You [by Anonymous Citizen on August 25, 2008] about 2007 House Bill 4430 (Revise statutory rape laws ) .,.,. Reply New Comment View Thread
Ummm [by Anonymous Citizen on August 25, 2008] about 2008 House Bill 6389 (Grant early and full pension to some privatized state workers ) No, No and No ! But at least they want to give a pension to someone that actually worked, very much unlike themselves. Reply New Comment View Thread
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