Motion by Sen. Virgil Smith, Jr. (D) on February 22, 2012, to discharge the bill from committee and bring it directly to the Senate floor for a vote. The motion failed 12 to 24 in the Senate on February 22, 2012.
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The vote was 12 in favor, 24 against, and 2 not voting.
(Senate Roll Call 90)
|Anderson (D)||Bieda (D)||Gleason (D)||Gregory (D)||Hood (D)|
|Hopgood (D)||Hunter (D)||Smith (D)||Warren (D)||Whitmer (D)|
|Booher (R)||Brandenburg (R)||Casperson (R)||Caswell (R)||Colbeck (R)|
|Emmons (R)||Green (R)||Hansen (R)||Hildenbrand (R)||Hune (R)|
|Jansen (R)||Jones (R)||Kahn (R)||Kowall (R)||Marleau (R)|
|Meekhof (R)||Moolenaar (R)||Pappageorge (R)||Pavlov (R)||Proos (R)|
|Richardville (R)||Robertson (R)||Schuitmaker (R)||Walker (R)|
SENATE LEGISLATORS WHO DID NOT VOTE
|Johnson (D)||Nofs (R)|
SENATE LEGISLATORS ALL VOTES
|Y Anderson (D)||Y Bieda (D)||n Booher (R)||n Brandenburg (R)||n Casperson (R)|
|n Caswell (R)||n Colbeck (R)||n Emmons (R)||Y Gleason (D)||n Green (R)|
|Y Gregory (D)||n Hansen (R)||n Hildenbrand (R)||Y Hood (D)||Y Hopgood (D)|
|n Hune (R)||Y Hunter (D)||n Jansen (R)||- Johnson (D)||n Jones (R)|
|n Kahn (R)||n Kowall (R)||n Marleau (R)||n Meekhof (R)||n Moolenaar (R)|
|- Nofs (R)||n Pappageorge (R)||n Pavlov (R)||n Proos (R)||n Richardville (R)|
|n Robertson (R)||Y Rocca (R)||n Schuitmaker (R)||Y Smith (D)||n Walker (R)|
|Y Warren (D)||Y Whitmer (D)||Y Young (D)|
Senate Roll Call 90 on The motion
There is no question that extending unemployment benefits for such a long time period increases unemployment. searching for work often refuse offers, hoping to get better offers in the future. Unemployment insurance makes such refusals happen much more.
On the other hand, for many workers, long-term unemployment insurance should not be provided indefinitely. Two years of unemployment insurance, even for those seeking re-training, is too much.requires them to acquire new skills, and that can take time… But no matter what people decide to do vis-a-vis re-training,
To answer your question, I am working and never have drawn unemployment. When I first got married, 23 years ago, I worked for $50 dollars a week while I was starting my own business. I also had a night job. No unemployment there. As a tax payer, and a business owner, this subject totally effects me. Michigan citizens are the ones paying for these unemployment extensions. All that money has to come from somewhere. As a business owner, this totally effects me too. I am always looking for quality employees and sometimes they are hard to find when I am competing with the government who is paying people to stay home. And yes, Michigan was in a single state recession for 10 years, thanks to liberal policies which were anti business and caused high taxes, and entrenched unions. Not many business would want to move to Michigan and pay higher taxes and have to fight unions constantly. Business are leaving California and Illinois in droves, and they should be coming here. Instead, they are going to states like Texas, Tennessee, Colorado and 22 other Right To Work states, but that is another whole topic. Anyway, Sweetflower, we will probably have to agree to disagree. I do feel for the unemployed, as a business owner, I am always just a few decisions from being one myself, but there has to be a limit on how long and how much someone can draw. Otherwise it bloats our state budget, which bloats our taxes which, in turn, deters businesses from staying or coming to Michigan to create jobs and the cycle continues.
You did not answer my question, you must be working and it sounds like never drawn unemployment before. You are talking about a subject that apparently does not effect you. You have to be in people's shoes before you know what it is like to have to ask for help. Unemployment is paid for by the employers little by little for bad economic times like now. How long people draw is determined by the recession we are in and the percentage of people not able to find work. This recession and housing meltdown made it worse and longer. I am sure you apparently watch the news for your info, so you have to know how bad it was. And Michigan was especially hard hit and had been for 10 years, way before the other states felt it. Manufacturing going overseas helped Michigan to go down. Your frriend may have gotten himself going but all people are different. Some don't even have a garage to start a business in. You are talking about someone else, not yourself. As I said you are working and have no clue what is going on with people. If you aren't in their shoes or been there, I see why you think its a give away program. Most people spouting out that way are the same. People need help and the ability to get thru until things greatly improve and businesses actually do some hiring. Trickle down for the last 12 years of the Bush tax cuts did not trickle down. Never does. If you don't believe me, google it. Lots of articles on it. Good luck and please don't think everyone is sitting home doing nothing. It is not true. Things are improving but a long way to go.................